Have you ever considered leaving your bickering kids at the side of the road?
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Have you ever considered leaving your bickering kids at the side of the road?
Have you ever considered leaving your bickering kids at the side of the road?
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If you would do something like this, please put your kids up for adoption immediately!
Oh yeah, there are lines out the door of people trying to adopt girls this age. They would be much better off in our foster care system than being dropped off 3 miles from their own home.
Its called being a parent. This woman did exactly as many people have done in the past and will do in the future. Being the adult in the situation and not letting the children control it. This is what is wrong with society- people think we have to baby our children to make them better adults. WRONG! They need to learn respect, descipline, and hard work. Our parents and their parents all survived growing up in much more strict times. A time when people were allowed to parent their children without everyone else intruding and telling them they are doing it wrong. 12 & 10 are old enough to know better, old enough to walk home, and old enough to be held responsible for their actions. What would everyone be saying if the mother had a wreck because of the arguing going on in the car by these two girls and some one was actually physically injured. Then everyone would be blaming the mother for not doing her job as a parent. Final thought- if you don't have kids don't weigh in on the matter. If you do have kids- you parent your way and let others parent theirs.
I agree with you, its our goverment is not allowing us to spank them or the child would call cps. it was only 3 miles away. im sure that would of been very good exercise for them since these children now days like to just stay home and us the electronic gagets. i dont blame the mother, these children need to know when enough is enough, our children now days have no respect for there parents. im so waiting for my 17 year old to turn 18, since that age group of 12 has been a nightmare. she just doesnt get it . hopefully those 2 kids got it. when my daughter gets nasty with me thats what i should of done when we were driving. good luck to mom and hope the kids come back and learned there lesson. it was better than beating them.
Yes I agree - follow the 11th commandment - mind your own business!
I think she is a great mom. Ten and twelve is old enough to walk 3 miles. It's not like they were 5 years old and it was the middle of the night. What worries me is the parents who do not discipline their children and are crying "foul" now. Pleeaaaze....go mom!
I did something similar. I stopped, put my 14 year old out and she started walking toward the house. I did make her get back in the car and she got the point. Also her sister who was innocent of any wrong doing at the time seen what could happen if she followed in her sister footsteps with antics that got her put out of the car in the 1st place. Now they are both college graduates working on their masters program. It did not harm them. It taught them a lesson that respect and honesty is a very high priority in life and living. And respect is earned, not given. That applies to all ages.
I see that the genital mutilation has affected your ability to use logic and reason.
I am so sorry for your loss.
A walk home is healthy for your kids and does not harm them....adoption??? get a grip!
AMEN! I don't understand the whole hubub. The girls were told to stop and disrespected their Mother. I say let em walk. If the two had stayed together the younger drama queen wouldn't have had a thing to worry about. SHE went looking for attention and found it. Wonder how smart she feels now.....
" A walk home is healthy for your kids and does not harm them".............Really?? You cannot be serious?! Please don't tell me you have children because they need to be removed from your home. There are too many things that can happen to a child under those circumstances. I have thought about screaming and running from the car sometimes but NEVER would I put my children in danger. Nor is beating them an option. There are many parents and I would like to think myself one of them who can deal with the stress of raising children in this crazy world without putting them in danger or beating them.
I totally agree with red5950 and many of the others. I have threatened to drop mine off (less than a couple of blocks from home) and they get the message. I've never been to White Plains, NY but from looking at crime statistics it looks like a pretty safe place to be... not exactly like being dropped off in Detroit or some other high crime city. It probably would have been an hour of walking and thinking about their behavior. I'm sure the kids didn't want their mom to go to jail or to have her lose her parental rights (even if only temporary). It's unfortunate that she was arrested for all of them. Now the children know they have more power than she does and the government has more power than all of them! The lesson to the kids, unfortunately, is probably... don't call the police when you think you need help. Lesson to mom... if you discipline your children, we'll take them away from you.
Dear God, no wonder everyone's child is medicated and have three therapists. Sereiously when I was a kid I never used a helmet when I rode my bike. I left the house in the morning to play and didn't come back till I was called and guess what!?! I'm a normal non whiny person. Go figure. Yes my mother used that threat on me and I use it too. That doesn't make me a bad mother. You people are such wusses.
I know. lets arrest all those parents who let there 10 and 12 years olds play outside and after that lets go to the mall and arrest the parents who either drop off there kids or let them run around the mall un attended. Are you kidding ME? How many people here know were there pre-teen and teenagers are? Are you sure? I truley doubt it.
I did this with my niece and nephew. They got into a fist fight (were probably around 10 and 11 at the time). I locked the doors and made them walk beside the car for about 3 miles. I did not leave, but they sure learned their lesson and it was never an issue again.
I totally agree. So many parental rights have been taken away. The kids have every right to be brats but when it comes to punishment the parents have very few choices. I was spanked as a child...and there is a difference between spankings and beatings. Did it hurt me? Heck no!! The only thing it hurt was my pride. And I learned in short order to respect and obey. And face it...a "time out" or grounding just does not work for some children. On the other hand, some children all you have to do is threaten a time out and that's all it takes. And many children today just have absolutely no respect.
I could see doing this with older-aged children, but not leaving them. Sure, make them walk home, but follow behind them in the car. The walking three miles is not the issue. Its the abandonment that's the issue.
nikkinala, uh, folling behind in the car? why not let them ride on the bumper? all the whiners on here, it's not like the kids were dropped off in lion country or forced to swin thru shark infested waters. kids today are fat, lazy, spoiled and stupid... and those are the better ones...
I agree. the 10 year old obviously had abandonment issues. If you don't have the unconditional love and patience it takes to be a parent...don't have kids.
You people are extreme! I agree with those of you who say kids do not take responsibility nowadays like they used to. When they are screaming & fighting & disrupting your driving it is probably the safest thing to do. I've been there and believe me once children see your serious they start listening a whole lot better!
Following behind them in the car while making them walk home gives them consequences for their actions, while making sure they are safe. Not sure what "cmon" meant by letting them ride on the bumper. That isn't safe at all, nor would it counter the fatness and laziness that "cmon" speaks of.
: "if you don't have the unconditional love and patience it takes to be a parent... don't have kids"
I take it that you are pro-choice then?
Look: no one knows how hard it can be to be a good parent until you are faced with the situations that only a kid can put you in. As patient as you can be, as loving as you can be, kids will test you and push you. The Good Lord sends some of the most difficult kids to test some of the most patient parents. If your kids were easy to raise, good for you. Not everyone is in your shoes.
How does someone learn to be a good parent? We tell our teens "don't have sex until you are ready" and most schools teach sex-ed and STDs, but how many schools teach how to be a consistent caregiver, how to cope with stress, how to challenge and inspire another person, and how to build a good relationship with a child? Few? Any?
Good parenting is a skill. You are NOT born with it. If you are lucky, and blessed, your parents were good parents, but that doesn't mean you will be. If we want kids to grow up to be good parents, and most someday WILL be parents, we should teach them to be good parents.
It would be a more useful class than trigonometry, I'll tell you that.
I think mother did the right thing. She told them what she will do if they do not change their behavior. The girls decided disrespect their mother and keep doing whatever they wanted to do. They have to put up with the consequences! The age of 10 and 12 is the age when kids could understand and should respect.I am talking about normally developed, average children. Only if the kids have some emotional or mental impediment this mother made big mistake.
I have done the same thing but drove just around the corner so I could still see my girls. I don't think she did anything wrong and since she was only 3 miles from home what's wrong with that. It won't hurt them to walk home.
Spanking and abandoning children on the side of the road are two different things, I think.
It never even occurred to me to do anything like that. If my boys were acting up in the car, I either pulled over on the side of the road until they stopped, or we turned around and went home and they went to their rooms. The latter only happened once. They knew that the car wouldn't move if there was too much noise coming from the back seat. Nonegotiable.
Come to think of it, I don't know anyone personally who ever did this to their kids, nor have I heard anyone talking about even wanting to do it.
Yes, kids used to be able to walk or bike miles, play outside unattended (usually in large groups in this case, though), and after school, neighborhoods rang loudly with the sounds of kids playing. But not anymore. Moms aren't home to keep tabs on who is in the neighborhood like they used to be. That was a time when moms communicated with each other, knew who should and shouldn't be in those neighborhoods, and had an ear for the normal sounds of play. We don't have that anymore. What we do have is increased predator activity, kidnapping, sex slave ring activity, gang activity (which just didn't exist where we grew up), drug activity, and all manner of perversion out there. It is no longer safe to let kids walk long distances anywhere - and the crime level of a community is no guarantee of safety anymore, either. Given some recent stories on MSN and elsewhere, even school playgrounds and cafeterias aren't safe anymore.
ktswind - I never dropped my kids off at the mall and left, either. Never understood people who did.
'cmon', are you just some little troll? Blanket statements? That are obnoxious and wrong?
I think dropping them off and driving around the block would have been sufficient. I think they have all learned a lesson and the case should be dropped. I am surprised that the older sister left the younger sister, even though they were fighting. With my own children(5), as much as they fight, they still look out for each other.
Genital Mutilation...pathetic term for circumcision. Trying to make people feel sorry for you? You obviously have no children, but then again "the Perfect Parent" is one who has no children.
As a child, I walked to and from kinder garden and first grade over a mile each way in the DC suburbs. We moved to over three miles away from second to fith grade and I walked on a path through the woods a mile during part of it. Parents should teach their children to be self sufficient and not depend so much on being told what to do all the time. It is hard to believe the number of adults who feel frightened by children being left to think for themselves. I have also carried a pocket knife since I was a cub scout (even in school) and been shooting firearms since the age of seven and haven't come close to hurting myself or others. It all boils down to what we teach our children about responsibility and self sufficiency.
One time my 2 year old niece would not stay in her car seat. My sister in law pulled to the side of the road. As luck would have it, a policeman also pulled in behind them.
The policeman told my niece that she had to stay in her carseat or her mom could go to jail. That did the trick. That child looked for her car seat before even getting in the car.
quite the most irrational thing to say, in my opinion. a mother tried to discipline her kids because they were possibly putting her life, their lives and other people's lives in danger, by their distracting behaviour and you think she shouldn't have done it? perhaps you'd be ok with some damahed people or dead ones instead of a short, sharp lesson?
Yes it's called tough love , I did it myself 1,500.00 miles from home. Yes I went back and picked them up and told them next time I would not be back and they could find their own way home. What did it acomplish ..... they sat and played quietly for the rest of the journey. When they acted up again after that while we were out , I gave them the same choice , stop or get out ............ amazing they stop because they knew.
I'm curious all the people saying bad mom , what would your comments be if they had in their little temper tantrums distracted the mon and she ended up in an accident or hitting someone walking across the street killing some innocent little child on the way home.
I'm also thinking that maybe if parents got back to old school maybe , just maybe we would not have 10 and 12 year olds running around with impunity with knives and guns because the learn hey , you can't touch me.
just my 2 cents
Your email title Genital Mutalation suggets you might not be the best person to judge this womans actions on the level they actually happened. I have pulled over and left the 3 kids fighting and driven around the block. (I actually parked in the block behind them.)It did not leave them emotionally disturbed, however, it did give them a great laugh and story for their kids later in life. It did help for awhile, when I said "do you want me to pull over and let you guys out here" they replied "no" and actually shut up.
Sorry to butt in, but isn't this survey a loaded question?
I mean, yes, no, i don't know, and I'm not sure is technically fine. But by adding statements like "Yes, but I never have" and "No, it's terrible" precludes additional facts that the responders might not actually support. What if a parent HAD considered dumping his kids off at the side of the road, and they actually HAD done it? What if they never HAD considered it before, but didn't think it was all that terrible? Unlikely responses sure, but possible ones. Bad wording.
I am a mother of one child but I grew up with 3 siblings and let me tell you if we were to have more children and they faught like my sisters, brother and I did I would DEFONATELY do the same thing....just not drive all the damn way home. Maybe just a couple of inches or something to prove a point. Fighting in the car yelling in the car anything like that is unacceptable!! The parents are trying to get their kids to school, home practice ect.... healthy and happy and kids should respect their parents enough NOT to squabble to the extent of a parent blowing up like that while driving!!!!
When you were 10 and 12 years old were you locked behind closed doors? They were 3 miles from there home, not some town or city they were not fimiliar with. Many people are saying "what could have happened, as we found out a few short years ago, your child isn't even safe in there own bedroom. It is easy to cast the first stone. There is to much information the press does not release to make a true judgement call.
Yes, it was a loaded question. I was looking for the Yes, I have let them off, out of my car. I have had to pull over a # of times with my 2 kids arguing and they are 2 years apart, too. (what the news is not reporting now, is that this woman did go back for the 10 year old and could not find her, the 10 year old turned the corner or something, and I guess after looking for her, the mother went home, thinking that maybe, she would walk home.) I have dropped my daughter off once, a few blocks aways from home. Unfortunately, this kids now have the upper hand with this mother and so do all the kids in the USA that heard this story. Thank you
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I also agree that this is a result of the government has taken away our ability to punish our children. Leaving them 3 miles from home.....that's nothing. This shows how spoiled our society has become. I would walk father than that, by myself, to go to the store when I was that age. I watch college students walk further than that to attend class with heavy book bags, computers, etc. This is a case that once again the authorities are telling us that teaching our children that there are consequences for our actions is wrong.
About 50 some years ago this Guy with a college degree and NO COMMON SENSE said something like " Don't spank the child it will break their spirit" and look where it has got us. Gangs, Rapes , murders etc,etc,etc.
She should have pulled over, Slapped the S*&% out of them and driven on., but that would have gotten her in jail also.
OK, lets stop and think babyboomers.... what would your parents have done. They would have put your butt out of the car or gave you the butt lashing of a lifetime.. but more than likely it wouldn't have gotten that far. Kids today act so much different then when we were children, and I think part of the reason is the rules are so in favor of "soft" displine. You have kids doing things they would have never done while we were kids, and we wonder why. I think this mom resorted back to "old school displine"! Did it work... well i sure bet when she put those kids out of the car the bickering stopped. Made them stop arguing and wonder.. what do we do now.... I totally agree with what she did. I would have done the same thing!However , I wouldnt have went far, far enough away to watch them and insure their safety but teach them a lesson....
out of curiosity.....do you think that our government would rather mothers leave their 10 and 12 year old children on the street to walk home? What a lame excuse.
First of all the survey does need to be reworded...and one of them should be would you as a parent had done this...and yes i would ...i agree with the fact those people you don't have kids shouldn't put in their 2 cents...you know not what you speak...and last.. the problem with parenting now days is there are too many people sticking their noses in things that they need to back off...but when kids really need us to be there...where are you...what that lady did was not wrong and shame on them for putting her in jail..that's a lot of bs...and shame on you for judging her...so i see alot of people want to cast the first stone..aren't we all good parents...bs..we all had i'll moments and we have all found that after the fact that maybe we should had done it different...but i'm here to tell you the choices for my kids would had been either get out or get a Spanking and i wouldn't had to deal with it again and no there's nothing wrong with spanking a child so don't go there either...we just need to stop with casting the first stones and take a good true look into the mirror..
Since when is three miles from home a big distance for a 10- and 12-year-old? It is not where we live.
If you have children you would know what the mother was going through. I myself have threatened my children many times that I would put them out of the car. Its not being a bad parent, its trying to get the children to behave. Lets face it, all of us have thought about it at one point or another, we just havent acted on it because we were afraid of what other people would say or think. We should be able to parent our children the way that we see fit without someone telling you that it is wrong..Children do not come with manuals, you have to figure out what works for you and your family. The problem is that people that dont have children want to tell you how to raise your kids, but dont live in the day to day battles of raising children. If you dont have children, you dont know what its like and shouldnt judge what this mom did.
People are so hypicritical and act as if they have never done the wrong thing with their kids when they HAVE!! All these yo yo's that keep saying "then you should not have had kids" are just ignorant. Leaving the kids by the side of the road was wrong, YES but so many of the liars on here have done many things to their kids inside the walls of their homes that is far worse yet they comment here. For me I am a step parent and have raised my youngest stepdaughter from a very young child and my oldest was a teenager when I was married so I had her in my home for only a few years before she went to college. So many of you clowns on here think you are such great parents and you think along the lines you are special. I hear this a lot with lines of, "well they are just your step kids", "they are really not your kids" and crap like that. I have raised my youngest and was an influence on my oldest better than virtually all parents out there and I know this for a fact from how my oldest has turned out and how my youngest is turning out. Same type of deal here, there are a lot of people calling this woman a pig and a loser and a non deserver of kids and you have just gotten done abusing your child or hitting them with bat or putting their hand in boiling water. But here you are acting the perfect parent. What a bunch of losers. The lady made a bad decision and got busted, thankfully the kid was alright and thankfully that stranger was not a perv like a lot of you parents commenting on here are. People make mistakes,, perfectly good people so don't say you would NEVER do something when you just may or more than likely have already been doing to neglect YOUR kids. IDIOTS
Are you kidding me you obviously don't have girls 10 and 12. Three miles to walk in a mulitmillion dollar area- she got picked up and took out for ice cream. While I have made my 8 year old get out of the car ( didn't drive away I was out of town and she's to small ). Everyone seem to think we need to coddle kids that's how kids got the entitled attitude most seem to have.
Just because you leave your kids doesn't mean they will be a victim of genital mutilation.
I have three children, I don't disciple by being harsh, but I do let them know exactly what I expect out of them. They are very respectly to us and everyone. I can only assume that they are that way because they know I don't put up with it. My oldest is 17 and she does not raise her voice at all to me. Once at the age of 14 she stayed the night with her friend without telling me. I did tell her, when she came home, to pack her bags and leave. She begged me to forgive her, I told her to leave. (Parents are so forgiving, that they continue to do it again and again)Three days later with communication of the respect I deserve of my rules I did let her come back. Since then she realized I mean what I say. She is even better now. My 10 and 7 year old girls are wonderful kids and I am extremely proud of them. People are always commenting on their behavior.
Yes, being a parent is about responsibility, and teaching your children the right thing to do. True, people make mistakes, but they also need to learn to accept the consequences of them. It is a good thing that there was a caring person out there to find the little girl and not some crazy person that could have done who knows what to her.
My sister once abandoned my MOM at a mall for misbehaving, I kid you not.
So that's the flip side of it. LOL. But it taught mom not to act like she did, at least for a short while.
My son JUMPED out of the car when he was 9 years old. He wanted to go back to the toy store, where he threw a fit and we left. It was at a traffic light and he ran into a fast food store. I had to call the police, who were more interested in what kind of bad mother I was that would 'let' a child jump out of the car. Unfortunatly, I did not have child locks since they hadn't been invented at the time, and I didn't have a wire grill between me and my son, like a police car. The police did nothing other than say 'get your kid back in the car.' They would have benefited from some training, sympathy or maybe just some personality? They exacerbated the situation, not help resolve it, as in the case featured in this article.
This child, our first son, had a severe behavioral disorder, which took an inordinate amount of management and self control from my husband and me during his childhood and adolescent years. We wanted to leave him on the side of the road, or in the woods for wolves to raise, or give him up for adoption. No one would babysit. We used to joke that the National Guard was busy, so we didn't have a babysitter. He spent more time suspended from school than attending for several years, although he was brilliant by all objective measurements. When he finally graduated from college with two degrees - in Physics and Econ, he graduated Magna Cume Laude. But regardless of treatment and a lot of love and patience, he was wild and had no impulse control. At age 30, much of this is in the past and he is a very successful business man with a family. He is responsible and not wild. However, at time we see flashes of the old personality, but he does not act on those primitive impulses.
Bottom line - - I really understand how a parent could get to the point of stopping a car and saying, "GET OUT" then driving away. I've lived there.
I don't think it's really all that bad to do this to a kid; on the flip side, I have no problem with it if the kids grow up, and return the favor to their elderly parents one day. just remember, your kids learn from you. If your kids annoy YOU, abandon them on the road; when you annoy THEM one day when they are driving YOU around, they can return the favor.
You are never too old to learn a lesson.
I don't think that anyone who has thought about to their children should have to give them up for adoption. I think the mother's mistakes was driving off and not teaching her girls the meaning of teamwork or togetherness. That was thing that bewildered me because how is it that the 12yr old thought it would be cool to leave her 10yr old sister? I understand that in this time and age you can't just drive and leave your kids because of all of the sickos in the world posing as "Good Samaritans". My other thought was this Good Samaritan, why take the child to get ice cream first before contacting the police?
Kudos to Ms. Primoff!!! I have done this with my children (11 and 15) and I will again if needed. Children need to be taught there are consequences for thier actions. Letting the children out in a safe environment and letting them walk home is an equal consequence to their actions; especially since they were warned that this would be the consequence for their undesirable behavior.
People have forgotten along the way that parents ARE in charge of our children. This mother did not endanger her child. She did not drop her off in the middle of nowhere or in the bad part of town. The girl also had a choice, she could have went after the car and apologized and gotten back in like her sister did. Instead, she chose to get in to a power play with her mother, which she deservingly lost when her mother drove away. I can almost guarantee this 10 year old had a cell phone and emergency contact information, she was not left in the wilderness to die.
As for the "good samaritan", is this person being charged with child abduction? This person did not know the child, her parents and had NO right to take the girl anywhere (even if it was for ice cream), especially BEFORE calling the police. This person should have called the authorities and left it at that.
There is no law stating that if your child is mature and responsible that they cannot be left alone. There are recommendations and guidelines, but this mother did not break any law, just sensibilities. Toughen up America - it is thinking like this that is the reason there is an epicemic of 30 and 40 year olds still living in thier parent's basement, while their parents still clean up after them and continue to raise them.
To ride a bus to school you must live at least 2 miles from the school... So is it abuse to make a child walk the 1.99 miles to school, not to mention that the malls can be walked to by most teens, there is no reason that this should be brought up, if someone was to take her children then I could see that issue, the passerby is the one that should be brought to charges, for that was kidnapping, unless they knew the girl.
Oh, please. We treat kids today like their china dolls. My wife did that a couple of times to our boys. She would pull over about a half a mile from home and make them get out and walk the rest of the way. I think they actually enjoyed it.
my mom dropped me and my older brother off about a good 20 minutes walk from home when i was about 16 and he was 17... we enjoyed it :} if we were younger, i'm sure i'd enjoy it too... as long as i'm with my brother.
parents now adays need to stop acting like their kids are fragile. I live in Las Vegas, and trust me if i had the opporunity i would leave my kids on the side of the road. and they are teenagers. the only problem i would have is they would find their way home.
You don't have the correct option.
I would have done it without a wince had my kids been older than 10 or 12, that is entirely too young!
I agree -- they don't have the correct option. Some of these people writing clearly haven't been stuck in the car with their children while they bicker and fight. I made my oldest son get out of the car when he was 13 because he wouldn't leave his brother alone and he is now 23 and still laughs about that day. Children aren't made of glass and they won't break if they aren't handled with kid gloves. HOWEVER, I would probably not leave my daughter on the side of the road because it's just too dangerous for girls to be left alone. Having said that, I don't live in White Plains, NY. I live in a big city in California.
My mother used to make us get out and she would drive off. We knew she would be sitting up the road a little ways or would come back shortly. It only took a couple times of following through on her threat, and we knew she meant business. The next time she warned us, we stopped fighting right then. None of us were ever psychologically ruined or devastated for years because of it. However, she didn't do this in any dangerous neighborhood. Discipline is supposed to be a wake-up call. That's what they got.
So many parents threaten stuff like this but they never follow through. Kids know empty threats and they mean nothing. Guess these girls will listen to her next time!Of course, the question here is, why didn't the girls stay together?
Oh, what a guilty fantasy. As the mother of 3 sons, all within 4 years, there were sooo many times I was tempted. But I would pull over in a safe area and refuse to move the car even 1 more inch until the situation was resolved. It didn't matter who was going to be late for what sports game, practice....."We don't move until you guys settle down."
We laugh about it now, and I joke that I can't wait until they get to the same situation with their own children....and I have a pretty good idea about how they'll handle it.
I have a 21 year old who has Autism. I swear, some parents don't realize how easy their job is, or how grateful they should be, every day of their lives. I NEVER considered leaving my son, even when he was throwing up every day for years, not able to communicate typically, repeating little sayings over and over and over, etc. Is this woman kidding? She couldn't deal with bickering??? REALLY??? Holy CR*P!!!
Mental abnormalities is a different situation. There are different expectations for behavior and self-sufficiency when talking about kids with autism.
It's one thing leaving perfectly normal healthy children to walk a couple of miles home (but the point is she wasn't going to make them walk home at all--she was going back to get them), but you would totally be bashed for leaving a helpless austistic kid alone. That's just common sense.
Would anyone leave their autistic child for throwing up everyday, not being able to communicate, or repeating sayings? Your comment is not related, I'm sorry.
I wouldn't do it, but I'm not sure if it's as big a deal as it's been made out to be. The kids were only 3 miles from home, after all. The mom probably just expected them towalk the rest of the way.
I don't care if it was 10 feet from home!! Kids get kidnapped out of their own front yards. You people need to grow up and realize that kids will be kids and that they fight sometimes, but nobody should ever leave their child out for the sickos to kidnap or rape. That mother would have felt awful had that happened to one of those children. The state should take her children away. She is a lawyer, not an uneducated moron- She should know better.
everyone is forgetting the other part here. kids aren't nearly in as much danger as you are all lead to believe by society. please. so you don't let your kids play out in the front yard? really?abductions are no more prevelent than 30 years ago, you just hear about them instantaniously, so now janie can't play in the front yard anymore. perspective people. how about teaching your children to be aware and smart, not scared. 10 and 12 is not too young. and all this positive parenting crap doesn't work, why do you think kids these days are so disrespectful? because we are now told that we should reason with a 3 year old and it just goes downhill from there. don't tell me that a little fear and intimidation doesn't go a long way. look at what the government and media has done to all of you. c'mon people, claim your lives back, raise your kids, and get to know your neighbors. it's a better way. really
It isn't a big deal and this is clearly a bunch of Liberal CRAP. I have 5 sons and a 12 year old daughter.... and most days from the time they were 7 and 8 years old (as long as they were together) they would ride bikes or walk and go to the ice house and play through our neighborhoods well at 3 mile distances. I grew up and left in the morning and my parents wouldnt even see me until supper time. I would walk 5 miles to a friends house. At 10 and 12 years I used to work and not becasue I had to. Quit defending kids for being brats and lets begin allowing parents to be parents again. The mother did nothing wrong. NOTHING. The reason we are in this recession is because kids today are so coddled and have become major users who want everything handed to them with no responsibility whatsoever. They even live at home until they are 25 and 30 and older! This is proven research. Let kids grow up! Behave or walk! 3 miles....Big deal. Kids get kidnapped out of their front lawns...yeah...well, kids are killed (and potentially endangered) in car accidents ....what...next don't let them drive? Higher statistic of kids killed in car accidents than kids kidnapped walking 3 miles from home in groups of 2. That statistic is like .0000001. She didnt endanger them and too bad the mom was arrested.
"CRAZIES AROUND EVERY CORNER BOOGALAHBOO!!1"
No. There are not, in fact, crazies around every corner. There are hardly any of them.
There's a much higher chance of dying in a car accident than you do being --BOO!-KIDNAPPED!!-BOO!!-- from on your front doorstep.
Stacy, when your kids are 18 and they can't even apply their own deodorant because you've kept them infantilized, unable to learn on their own -- do not come crying to me. Go crying to My Kid Has Autism mom, instead. But don't expect pity from her, because she has an excuse.
Kids need to be OUTSIDE to LEARN. And they don't learn from you plopping them in front of the TV. They learn by running around, getting skinned knees, and discovering ON THEIR OWN how to handle situations. You just can't buy a DVD for that!
I let my 12 year old son take the city bus home from school every day. Guess what - he's never been molested, or bothered, or even scared. He can spot weirdos and knows how to avoid them. He can make himself a sandwich when he gets home, too. He even brushes his teeth without me reminding him. Am I proud? Do I brag? NO, because this is NORMAL behavior. He doesn't get a gold star and a new iPod for doing what's expected! Unlike all the completely insufferable BRATS who he goes to school with. Frankly, I think they're emotionally three grades behind him - and that they're bad influences.
So Stacy, and all you other parents who would DARE take me to task for teaching my son how to be a responsible, independent ADULT - step off. Turn in your parents badges, because you're not producing adults. You're producing infants in the bodies of teenagers. And CPS should come take YOUR kids away.
BTW, don't we have some gay people who seem pretty darned responsible, and who want kids? I say they would do a far better job than you are.
I have kicked my two boys out of the car once. They were about 8 and 10. Only a 1/2 mile from home, and they knew where they were. It was raining and they were shocked that I actually went through with the threat they'd heard before. But they got the point. And I'm not sorry I did it. I drove around, keeping an eye on them.
My uncle left my cousin & me by the road once when we were around 10. We just laughed & started walking. He came back within minutes. I'm 38 now & I'm pretty certain the incident didn't scar me for life. However, times are more dangerous now so she should have never driven so far that they were out of her sight.
i have done it. it stops the B*^&#&*$*$ really fast that's for sure! but i don't live in Manhattan either....
This woman (I can't call her a mother) really should be prosecuted. With all of the crazies out there now she knowingly and deliberately endangered her daughters by abandoning them. How are they supposed to understand that she is the one with a problem? I did not have a sister but a younger brother and we did argue alot. My Mom would look at us with this sad pitying look and we would stop because we were making her feel bad. How can these girls have that kind of relationship with their Mom when they know she will just leave them somewhere the next time she gets aggravated with them?
people like you have ruined the current generation. kids are so "entitled" and spoiled and rude today....instead of raising confident, strong, self-reliant kids, we've raised a generation of impolite little monsters..... CHEERS TO THAT MOM!!! Jeers to you.
PAMDARED-
I'll bet your a parent of one of those disrespectful, sniveling little brats that scream and cry and carry on in the grocery store, huh? Kids these days need to learn that there are consequences to thier actions, they need to learn that there are boundries and to respect others- failure to do so makes for pretty lousy adults. Way to go MOM!
all the sickos out there these days....
WTF... there have been sickos out for a very long time, and many of them are relatives or people the kids know.
Did something change in the last 30 years? whats different from 100 years ago and now? More sickos or just sickos in the spotlight. They have always been around.
And I totally agree, this generation is rude, disrespectful, lazy, and have no conception of concequences of their actions. OH and get this our government protects them and will try to ruin parents lives over kids not liking being told they can't flunk out of highschool, they can't have a drivers lisense until they prove they are responsible enough to get it. Society is going in the toilet.
What have those girls just been taught.... If I don't like the rules or the punishment for my actions I can just go whine to the police and get any with everything. You are absolutely right, the children will be scared for life.....
My only criticism of the mom here is that it's too bad she didn't have better control of her kids before this. I guess I inherited the Mom's "Evil Eye" from my mom. All four of us kids knew that Mom would give you this look and you were done. I was never spanked (though I did get grounded), but it was the look that stopped most of the behavior. My kids say the same of me. All I had to do was look at them and let them know that their behavior wasn't acceptable.
I'd recommend some classes/therapy for the family. Obviously the girls need to learn some respect for their mom and their mom needs to learn how to assert her authority in a more "acceptable" way. The dad also needs to back up the mom. It's a family issue.
Classes/therapy to assert her authority? When I was a youngster I (and all of my friends) would have had the same treatment and a thick ear to boot. Sounds like she asserted her authority pretty well to me. No wonder we're rearing a generation of self entitled brats who know they can get away with anything! Crazies on every corner? The only crazies I ever see on street corners are kids with attitudes.
I agree with Honey Santana. I had 7 children. We had assigned seats in the car, any extra bickering the car did not move. (This also applied to seat belts)
I would never do this because of an event I still think about to this day. My parents were upset with one of my sisters for some reason - she was around 5 at the time and I was 7. They drove to an orphanage in downtown Chicago with all of us in the car and told her they'd had enough and were leaving her there. She was hysterical, I was hysterical, and my dad even tried to drag her out of the car! I'll never forget it! No wonder my sister had issues as a teenager! It was an awful experience and I wasn't the one they threatened with the orphanage!
I'd guess that your sister had "Issues" long before she was a teenager or your parents wouldn't have felt the need to take her to an orphanage.
This is typical enabling mentality, making excuses for someone else's bad behavior.
At one time, corporeal punishment would have been another option. But, I wax nostalgic...ah, those were the days!
You are my hero! I totally agree; and I wonder where all these "perfect" parents are while their kids are screaming in grocery stores. I spanked my kids, and I did put them out the car when it was necessary. I never had to leave them...but they were out the door. My kids are well adjusted loving kids, and we actually sit and laugh at their behaviors at that age. They are 19 and 21 now, and they are great kids, in spite of their mother:-)
Why don't you beat yourself instead, because troubled and misbehaving children have troubled and misbehaving parents. In every case, including my own, the parents and their childish attitudes, views, and fighting have caused the situation in the first place. The children only act out on what they have been taught.
Look at this POS mother for example, with parenting skills like this, is it any wonder why her children are driving her crazy? You do not have to punish children to correct their bad behavior, you have to stop YOUR bad behavior so your children know how to act correctly.
Out of control children start with out of control parents, take a parenting class before you try to blame your child for your inadequate parenting skills.
A.H.-Engineer - you obviously don't have children. There is a big difference between "bickering" and being "out of control".
You are so full of it...what a stupid comment.. you don't know anything about being a parent.... I know you're can't a parent....
What kid doesnt fight with their siblings? I highly doubt that these kids learned to bicker with each other by watching their mother and her siblings. Children do need to be disciplined and she didnt beat them, yes leaving the 10-y.o. was a bit young but the 12-y.o. could have walked home. Stop trying to blame the parent for normal childhood antics.
A H engineer and the rest of you bleeding hearts,,, i would bet that those children have walked that distance before either playing or going to friends house and no one would think anything about it. but because a parent makes a kid walk home because they are fighting,, give me a break,,,, and yes to all of you mambie pambie idoits that think spanking is wrong.. i didnt say beating i said a spanking,, i think some of you need to be spanked. That is the problem you individuals dont want to take responsiblilty for your actions in raising your children,, and then when they get older we as law enforcement or teachers are expected to fix and clean up your messes and you then want to know what i did wrong in raising them. Well the responsiblity starts at home.. and yes i have children and they are physcially and mentally well and they know there bounderies when it comes to dis respect and when they are told to stop doing something that is unacceptable behavior,,, So to you parnets that think that this is all bad,,, you better get a grip or you are going to be suprised,,,
A.H.-Engineer - Unfortunately, the popular notion of corporeal punishment equates the practice with child abuse. Nothing could be further from the truth. The failure to teach respect and set boundaries is far more "abusive" to children.
I was raised by immigrant, Depression-era, Italian grandparents. They weren't good at "negotiating" obedience or correct behavior, but they never failed to let me know that they loved me (though they always made sure I knew who was in charge...and it wasn't me!)
Marge-458048 : I have 3 actually. They are strong willed, very bright, and never act like this. Your assumption I do not have kids is a classic example of ignorance in parenting, most probably yours.
By the way, in case you want even more information before you flip off with another moronic assumption, all 3 are boys, all 3 are ADD, all 3 are spaced about equally, and all 3 support each other and act respectfully to their teachers, their mother, and me.
Lead by example, and learn how to be a parent, then maybe you wont have to deal with "Out of control" children.
There are too many excuses for kids bad behavior these days ... ADD is just one of them. If they are not well behaved then she, and every other parent, has a right to reasonably discipline them ... not abuse, just discipline. Just because a parent has a child does not give that child the right to torment the parent!
Ah yes, see AH engineer has 3 ADD kids, his are never out of control because his kids are bad because of ADD so just drug them and they will be good they will be zombies but they will be good!
Oh we get it now AH Engineer, you have 3 sons that are not bad, they are impaired with ADD. You would not ever discipline them, you just drug them into zombie-like obedience.
Yes! I instilled discipline in my son early by "whippin" his butt when he needed it. Now he is a healthy, happy, good young man. His teachers, principal, neighbors, family and friends all say that I have a great kid. He is by no means perfect, but his respects adults and tries to stay out of trouble. He knows that I am the parent and in charge. That came from showing him who has the power, early.
The mother did nothing wrong in my opinion. I'm sure that the girls learned a valuable lesson and the next time they will show their mother some respect. Teenagers are the worst people to deal with. Let's be glad that all she did was leave them in a nice neighborhood around people. It could have been worst. Does anyone remember Yates, Smith and now that monster Casey Anthony.
I agree with Cindi0510. I have 3 children and one is ADD but I did everything possible before considering drugs. Even on drugs he's a handful but I wouldn't have him any other way. I see too many parents have their kids labeled as ADD and it is really just lack of disciplining. Usually these parents "reason" with their children because children are very rational & logical. Of course, when the kids tell them to F off the parents say he must be ADD. Idiots.
Cindy-
Way to be even more judgmental than most people on this board. If someone doesn't smack their kids/isn't willing to leave them on the side of the road, they MUST be doing it wong! Moron.
Cindy : How interesting that you assume my children need drugs to behave. In reality I give them time to have their energetic outbursts in constructive ways, so that when they reach times of stress, they can deal with the issues in a calm manor.
Perhaps you are the one that should be medicated so that you can reach some kind of social norm?
I made a promise to myself when my immature parents put me on Ritalin when I was a child that I would give my children the choice, when they came of age to be able to understand that choice. Did you know that you are barred from military service if you have taken Ritalin? Why in the hell would I limit my child's future because I think they need drugs.
Look folks, I really don't have to justify anything I say on an internet forums, however you should take a long hard look at your parenting skills if you are having problems with a child. If you start from the moment they are born, support and nurture them, choose non-violent ways of disciplining them, you are not going to have problems.
If you are abandoning your children, spanking them when they are bad, yelling at them when you think they have done wrong, how do you think they will act to deal with the situation? Be the adult, and get some education.
Oh, and 1 last thing Cindy, I have a PhD in Physics, my undergrad is in Electrical Engineering, and I have ADD. My 7 year old son is working on basic algebra, my 4 year old can do fraction, and my 9 year old can probably do more math then anything you have ever attempted.
ADD is not an impairment, I would lay odds that your children are not nearly as capable, as well manored, or have as much fun with life as mine do. Afterall, the old saying " The apple never falls far from the tree " is as true today as it was centuries past.
And in case you want to bring my wife (their mother) into this, she is an English Teacher.
Anything else you want to poke at?
A.H. - Yes, please get your wife to proofread your comments.
"Well manored" means they live in a nice house. You mean well-mannered.
Yes, because an electrical engineering physicist is an expert on parenting advice...
Thank you MOMFROMSA.
"Yes! I instilled discipline in my son early by "whippin" his butt when he needed it. Now he is a healthy, happy, good young man."
I know a guy who did that to his wife when they first married. They have a great marriage now.
There are to many crazies out there, and it only takes a minute for something bad to happen. I agree that she needs a parenting class!
Melissa, you've been watching too many horror movies. There's no more "crazies" now then there were, they're just overpublicised until poor gullible folks like you live in total paranoid fear.
There has been a time or two that my daughter has refused to get in the car in order to extend her temper tantrums in the parking lot for everyone's benefit. I've just informed her that the bus was leaving with or without her, gotten in the car, and started the engine. That has always been enough to get her attention. I'd never drive off and abandon her, but the threat certainly is effective.
My own mother did this to MY SON! He was 10 and it was July. We live in the city and it was 90 degrees that day. He walked a mile to my work. I WAS MORTIFIED! And SHE didn't think she did anything wrong, as he was "disagreeable"Â Had I known, I could have had her arrested, I would have. Needless to say, I have VERY LITTLE contact with her, even now, 8 years later!
Sad... you would have had her arrested? SAD - I'm sure you didn't mind the free day care or car pool though did you!
I was raised in prairie country where the summer temperatures were frequently 100 degrees and sometime more than that -- we spent our days walking around in that heat. We walked to my aunt's one of whom lived 6 miles in one direction and the other 2 miles in the other direction and thought nothing of it. My only question would be, "was he in serious danger in that 1 mile" -- if not then your mom was right and you should have supported her. No reason why a grandmother should have to deal with a "disagreeable" 10 year old. If he hadn't learned any manners by that age, he's probably a disagreeable 18 year old now -- so sad. When I was that age, children were expected to behave and we did.
I disagree with what the grandmother did . . . it's not her child. If the 10 year old was being "disagreeable," she could have driven one mile further and dropped the child off at his mother's work. The grandmother was entrusted with the child's custody and safety and should have returned the child to his mother if she couldn't handle him. If my mother did something like that to my child, we would not have much contact with her either.
I am sorry but your mother was right. When I was a kid I played all day in 90 degree weather. Children have to learn that they can't be disrespectful. Too many times we baby our kids and let the government dictate how to raise our children and we wonder why so many have behavior problems. I am a strong believer in "spare the rod, spoil the child". Your son was not hurt and a mile is not far to walk. He probably would have learned a lesson, but you chose to mess that up by babying him. It is time out for the children who curse at and are disrespect their parents. Unruly children become unruly adults.
I'm sure this kid now sneaks out at night to smoke pot. Poor little precious.
hopefully you started parenting better, otherwize other people in your sons life might make drastic choices like that... he must have been a total brat for his own grandmother to feel thats necessary. so sick of hearing how undeserving the child is... bull@!$%#. parents are to blame if their children are that rotten. no one else. Kudos... grandma!
I agree!! so sad!! but I am sure you are a "perfect" parent so you do have the right to never speak to your mother again!!! what a sad, sad person you are!! I feel sorry for your son....and not because of his grandmother!!!
I would totally support my mother if she did something like that with my kids. There is absolutely no reason for her to put up with my kids misbehaving, or being "disagreeable" especially if she's doing me a favor! And walking one mile in the summer heat would only have been the beginning of the unpleasant aftermath of their misbehaving. Just wait till we get home!
i agree ,, the grand mother didnt do anything wrong,,,, didnt hurt the child to walk.. and i bet it wasnt a mile,,, either,, i bet it was few blocks.. and of course some liberal mommie saying oh my goodness, my poor child,,, if it would of been my grand mother she would of paddle my tail for that kind of behavior and would of been paddled by my mom or dad when they found out. Cant blame the children if the parents dont care....they are too busy for the kids,,
Grandmother should have driven him to moms workplace, handed him back to her with the provision not to dump him on anyone else until she can teach him how to behave! My 4 would never have behaved that way with their grandparents, or anyone else, as they were taught to respect their elders.
Wow! a whole mile? and that cost him a Grandmother who loved him enough to give him boundries. Huh, what a sad and horrible story.
You must not have had much of a relationship with her to start with to use something this small to end your relationship with her. I guess your son got a great lesson that day, be a baby and get what you want.
Awww... poor kid, had to walk a mile in 90 degree heat... give me a break. Way to go Grandma, trying to raise the kid right.
My brother took my 11 year old daughter to disney land and thought nothing of letting her wander around and get on rides by herself. She later told me that she got lost and went to a mother with a child to find her way.... Of course I now have no contact with my brother. In light of the Cantu case...how would any MOTHER let thier child out of their sight. My brother's behavior was disgraceful and abusive... and any parent that is a professional who resolves DISPUTES for a living that does this to her children should be disbarred.
I also say - Kudos for Grandma, she did what she felt was the right thing to do. Interesting what another poster said I bet the Mom of the son appreciated ?!?!the fact that Grandma was giving of her time to watch the son. Boundaries, rules and respect are important to the development of the child it's what forms the character of the child. Again, way to go Grandma.
Grandma had no right to do that. Kid's not hers--if she really has that much of a problem with it, she should say she won't babysit anymore.
I am a grandmother to 15 all under the age of 12..... one 4 year old lives with me. She has boundaries just like her dad and his brothers did at that age. She is outgoing and happy go lucky but she knows that when Grandma says no or knock it off and she continues the behavior she gets to face the consequences. I am with grandma here.
Growing up it was done to me and my sister on a trip to see my grandmother when we were 5 and 7.... dad threatened to pullover and yank us out of the car if we didn't stop arguing and fighting.... we didn't and he did. Now the back roads of Utah after sunset gets dark really fast and there are no lights and he pointed in the genral direction of grandma's house and said we could walk if we didn't want to stop fighting. Then he drove off. We began fighting about whose fault it was that we were in this situation. 15 minutes later ( a whole lot longer to a a 5 and 7 year old) we saw headlights coming towards us.... it was dad and he said if we thought we were done arguing anf fighting we could ride to grandmas.... lesson learned by crossing boundaries we learned there were consequences we had to deal with. Today my sister and I are best friends and we don't fight over trival things any longer. we might disagree but that is our right as sisters and best friends..... we turned out pretty darn good. GO GRANDMA!!!!
and as for having nothing much to do with your mother you need to mend fences with her before its too late and you no longer can. I am sure as a child you probably did some things that caused her many tears. Its time to mend fences and become friends again, because if she passes before you can you will beat yourself up everyday for the rest of your life for not doing so when you had the chance.
Heaven forbid, a child walk a mile in 90 degree weather!!!! Why he might perish!! We are raising a nation full of wimps.
Been there ! did that only it was me and my sister who got left behind... we were told to quit bickering and dad threatened to pull the car over, and yank us out we didn't and he did. we were 5 and 7 on a road trip to see our grandparents in Utah. we lived in Salt Lake City at the time and were heading to Cedar City. On the back roads of utah after sunset it gets dark quickly. He pulled us out and pointed in the genral direction of grandmas and said we could walk or we could ride.... 15 minutes later we were in the car and the lesson learned that crossing boundaries and pushing limits had their conseqences. Today my Sister and I are best friends and have our own children. I am a grandmother of 15 all under the age of 12... and while I wouldn't leave any of them behind in todays age and society they know that grandma means what she says and will back it up with the action needed. I am with grandma.
meanwhile, please mend fences with your mother before you don't have that opportunity. You will never forgive yourself if she passes and you don't.
OK, all you people who think this is somehow alright. You have no idea what can happen out there when a child is alone, and you obviously lead a sheltered childhood, in which you were never disciplined, and now you don't know how to treat your own children. THIS IS NOT THE TIME WHEN WE GREW UP WHEN DIFFERENT THINGS COULD BE DONE! The world is a lot different now and some things that used to be OK, are not anymore. Wake up!
Well, you got to be kidding, you can always turn the tables. One day when your mom is with you and says something disagreeable, you can abandon HER in 90 degree weather and make her have a nice walk home to think it over.
OMG! Yougottobekidding, you're one of those spoiled little kids that grew up aren't you! I'll bet your mom spared the rod and discipline on you growing up, huh? Well I'm sure your son is a strong, independent young adult now, right? And yet you're still punishing your mother, GROW UP and stop being disagreeable you idiot!
Mike627, I'm not sure what statement you're making, except you've bought into the fear the media has been selling us all these years.
OMG!! Do you really belive your mom of all people would hurt your son. Dont people get it? Grandparents love there grandchildren more than anything else in this world. If she felt he needed a spanking, he must have. And from your coment. I would just assume he takes after his mom.
Mike627, you're excessively paranoid. The world, and all it's very real dangers, hasn't really changed much, but our response to it has.
I have read quite a bit of the e-mails but none hit me as hard as what you said about you hardly speaking to your own mother. I use to walk three miles to school every morning and three miles back home that's six miles per day. Thank God for the trees along the road. You should be ashame of yourself to let the public know that you hardly talk to your mother because of your brat of a son, if you had trained him to show respect to his grandmother she wouldn't have kicked him out of the car and by your actions now, this just makes him aprove of himself that he was right to be disrespectful to her. They say the apple does not fall far from the tree. Remember he is going to treat you the same way you are treating your mother. Shame on you.
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I dream about driving carefree off into the sunset. Bliss! But in reality, I wouldn't leave them in danger. One of my daughters missed the bus recently, and I made her start the walk to school three miles away. She is 13. I followed in my car with the lights blinking. I had three women, one man and a sheriff's car all stop in the first mile and ask if we had car trouble. When I explained it all to the sheiff's deputy, he smiled and said, "Oh, I understand, it's o.k." Since traffice was light and I was right there, everything was fine. I made her walk for a mile, then asked her if she could get in the car to ride the rest of the way so she wouldn't be late without arguing with me again. She agreed and kept her word. She really is old enough to walk all the way, and now she understands I mean it when the bus is important. I doubt we will have the problem again.
Yes and I have done it. I circled around and followed behind to make sure nothing happened; but, as far as my son was concerned, he was walking home alone. I come from a different generation where kids were held responsible for their actions and expected to listen to the parents.
Here here! Growing up, my aunt used to put my cousins out when they misbehaved in the car. We were still in the neighborhood, however, so they didn't have far to go. But back then us kids were made to mind our elders or else...and I'm happy to say a few spankings and a walk home or two hasn't emotionally scarred me at all. I'm a functioning member of society.
I can think of at least two occasions where I got left in this manner by my biological mother. I think I was ten or eleven and I never felt a greater sense of abandonment in my life when it occured. I can tell you after it did, I ended up in the river that day. A minor suicide attempt. I was only ten.
I have 7 kids and I've booted a few of them out and went around the block. Made them walk about a mile before I picked them up again. None of them utter a nasty word all the way to our destination. Parents need to quit indulging and coddling their teens. They are in for a rude awakening later in life, it isn't all about them.
I'm with you. My parents did this with my brother. He never pulled that nonsense again. I did it once with my son, only when he realized I was serious, he stopped. Never behaved that way again. To top it all off, he's now a responsible adult and we have a great relationship with him.
GrandmaO,
I agree with you completely! I was raised by parents that had a zero tolerance policy for disrespect and a 100% policy for taking responsibility for your own actions. I also served for 10 years in the Army and they have a high expectation of taking responsibility for your own actions as well. :0)
Three miles from home may have been a bit much for a 10- and 12-year old, but depending on the severity of the fighting, the length of time it had continued, whether or not they had been warned or not...I think mom was certainly justified in her actions. Come on...they were only three miles from home. I've made my daughter walk the 2-2.5 miles from school to home, after repeated times of missing the bus. You know what she learned? She never missed the bus again.
This story sounds to me like it's about a couple of spoiled little rich brats that get everything they want and never have to deal with any consequences. Trust me, it would never have gotten to that level in my vehicle. Unfortunately, the only thing these two girls are going to learn from this incident is that their mother has almost no ability to enforce discipline and they will hang this incident over her head, every time she tries.
Our society has gone to hell in a handbasket.
What I think is funny is that everyone is acting as if a 12 year old and 10 year old are in capable of walking. It was downtown in an elite area--not filled with crime! I thought it was amazing that the 12 year old left the 10 year old! My son knows that when it is him and his sister, he does not leave her side---no matter what! She ran the minute she saw her mother parked up the road (something left out in the article and is relevant). More importantly, both children are old enough to be able to control their behavior. They made a choice. Now the police are disarming the parent and the kids learn that mommy has no authority. That is a shame.
BTW---statistically the kids are more at risk for being hurt by someone they know (90%) as opposed to some stranger that would see them walking.
It is interesting that the media left out the part of the mom parking up the road. Probably left it out because to sensationalize the article and generate more response with that part missing. She may have parked too far away that they didn't see her. She should have stopped where they could see her. Another point that may need to be addressed -- the older girl looks rather selfish by leaving her younger sister -- but they were fighting -- so probably continued to fight after they got out of the vehicle. On a long cross country trip, my son & daughter (age 14 & 10 at the time) were arguing about something. I did pull over and make them get out, but I only moved a few feet, watching them in the mirrors the whole time, then stopped and let them get back in. The were good the rest of the 500 miles. There are times when all the discussing and reasoning, even yelling has no impact. I do not think she should have been arrested, maybe some family counseling, but not arrested. The girls are old enough to have some accountability for their actions.
Yay!! I've done the same as GrannieO. Children need to be held accountable for their actions and those that are usually grow up to be loving,caring, RESPONSIBLE adults. I've also used other creative methods for getting a point across to my children who now have children of their own and are calling asking "what would you have done Mom?" I wasn't always right but children don't come with a handbook and you need to use common sense and caring in dealing with them. You CAN NOT reason with a two year old and expect them to understand grownup discussions. Deal with them in a manner that they can understand that you love them but that you decide what the rules of acceptable behaviour are and you will have mostly well behaved, loving children in return.
Applause. I have done the same thing with a smart mouthed 15 year old. He walked 1.5 miles home. Didn't hurt him a bit. When do we teach our kids to be responsible for there actions? Why are we waiting for them to grow up before they learn to behave. Then society says " oh you have no manners,cause your parents misbehaved or weren't good parents" Cause there parents were afraid of going to Jail....I see thousands of young men and women every month who have just left home and joined the military. They WANT discipline. Discipline makes them feel safe. Many have never been held accountable for there actions. My children are now grown well adjusted adults who are able to take care of themselves at 18 and 21. Much younger then Most young adults who are still either attatched to the pocket book of there parents. Both have said Thank you to me for enforcing the rules. Hope she gets her kids back. This is a waste of your tax money. How many parents even know were there kids are most days.. Are you sure?
You're amazed that the 12-year-old left the 10-year-old, but it doesn't bother you that the mom left them both? Like mother, like daughter.
Maybe the kids learned a lesson. The mother should defnitely not be punished for trying to disclipine her kids. She could have beaten them but she chose to let them walk. I walked 2 miles each way to school in snow, rain, or heat and I was only 6 years old. What lazy teenager can't walk two or three miles. Bravo and thumbs up to the mom. As for the kids, they need their lazy butts spanked for turning her in.
obviously, because the one who hurt them this time was their own mother. do you know how many instances of kidnapping, rape and murder happen so close to home. and please give me a break saying its not a high crime rate city.....there's still crime and most of the time when you hear of horrible stories of rape and murder and orgie frickin fests it happens in the smallest of cities, with the least crime rate. and these days is it not only ok to make two preteenage GIRLS walk home alone but its also ok for kids their age to have sex these days and get OTC morning after pills so who cares if they have to walk alone, i mean they probably eat dinner alone and watch themselves after school.
I'm the single adoptive mom of one 10 year child and have never had any car issues with her. However, as the eldest of 7 children my father once dropped off 2 of my my brothers on a country road. We used to go for Sunday drives in the country - all 9 of us. My brothers were misbehaving and so he pulled over and let 2 of them out and drove away. We came back to my sobbing brothers about 15 minutes later. My father told them the next time they'd have to walk home. That was the end of arguing in the car.
As a P.S., when my daughter was misbehaving as a toddler in a grocery store one day I just picked her up, apologized to the store manager for leaving the cart with groceries, and left the store. That was the last time she misbehaved publicly.
Haha I used to work at toys r us shortly after high school and wondered what possesed parents to torture their kids around christmas time bringing them there and not allowing them toys. Most of the children would be screaming by the time they checked out and I would think "Cant you shut them up?'...then one day I realized there were probley many people in the grocery store looking and my three kids thinking the same thing. Now my kids are 11 and up and I see little kids being a pain for mom and laugh. It only takes one time of removal from a store...they seem to get it the next time.
As a mom of 5, I too have pulled over and made them get out, different kids at different times, but only had to do it once. Didnt leave them, but sometimes wanted to, just for a minute. But after that, all it took was a "do I have to pull over?" and everything was resolved. Empty threats do nothing, all but the one still at home (12 yrs old), have graduated from college, have great careers, and are productive citizens and were obviously not harmed in anyway. It seems in this case as usual, the bystanders have no idea what was going on in the car and should stay out of it, send the girls home, I bet mom doesnt have many problems within her car for quite a while.
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Sounds like she could use a parenting class.