I had no admiration or trust of him to begin with. He's just another man with problems and shortfalls of his own. Being a "Superstar"...because he plays a great round of golf, doesn't make him a saint, nor a god. He gave up his PRIVACY..when he became a superstar, a public figure.
Oh, I thought he was a golf star, not a politician or other moral barometer. He has tried to do the right thing, keep the issue private. It is between him and his wife, who obviously knows. The waitress is a low life that is seeking fame and money off of her own misbehavior. She claims to want to be his friend....who needs that kind of friend!
He was wrong, but is it really our business?
Why if someone is good at something and becomes a star or becomes a public figure does their business become our business??? This is a private matter between Tiger and his wife. Just because the current generation has to plaster there private info and privates all over the web, TV etc does not mean anyone celebrity or not should be subject to all of this invasion of privacy. He did break the law when he had the accident and that is being dealt with. He did not break any laws having the "transgressions" only against his family and faith. He does have a right to privacy and it should be respected!! I am sure you would have a different opinion if rolls were reversed and this was happening to you - brock
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians.
Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
~Gandhi
Brock, I don't necessarily disagree with you on his right to privacy, but I have to take issue with "this was happening to you." This didn't "happen" to him. He DID it. He had affairs. He obviously got caught. He wrecked his car. He tried to avoid exposure. He had to admit to infidelities.
@ shewolf: Best quote I have read in a great while. And so true. Thanks
The moment you step on stage, political, entertainment, or athletic, you have defaulted your right to privacy in exchange for money. If your add campaigns champion you as someone to be emulated, then when you fail to meet the mark you pay for it. I'm an Actor, and I am intimately aquainted with the price!
reporter-"Mr. Ghandi, what do you think of western civilization?"
Ghandi-" I think it would be a wonderful idea!"
Shewolf, I agree with your quotes and would add another: "Judge not, lest ye be judged."
If those without sin cast the first stones, there would be no stones cast. Since every single one of his is "with sin", none of us are qualified to morally judge another. Of course we can judge, when authorized, the rules of the land. But moral judgement requires perfect judgement, and that leaves only a Perfect Judge. Not being one, I will leave Mr. Wood's personal problems to him, his family, and his God.
I will be cheering him on to win the grand slam this year, as I do every year. My interest in Tiger Woods is in his spectacular ability to hit a small sitting still ball. Something that is very, very hard to do well consistantly. What he does when he is not at work is really none of my business. I am not in a position of authority to judge him morally or legally. I will leave that to those who are.
Mr. Woods, my best wishes go with you, your wife, and your childred. I sincerly hope that you are able to find forgiveness where it matters most.
Re: brocktruck's comment:
I agree with most of what you said, except did he really break the law with his car accident? Since when is a car wreck "illegal" (unless it is intentional to cause harm)? He didn't hurt anyone other than himself, did not leave the scene of the accident, was not impaired by drugs or alcohol, and barely made it off his own property.
This whole media storm did not start with Mr. Woods confession of transgressions, but started with a car wreck - single car accident with a celebrity driver. Thankfully, he wasn't seriously injured. I think we all need to mind our own business, and leave this family alone.
I wonder how much Elin will get in the settlement or did she sign a prenuptial agreement? Truly a sad state for her and her children.
Another man thinking with the wrong parts of his body.
Another "star" sure that he is above everybody else -His family & wife and us too!!!
The waitress is a low life? Seriously?
This uber-talented spoiled richie-rich is a lying cheating two-faced scumbag. I don't care who you are, multiple affairs qualifies you as one thing - a shallow, empty, rotten bag of skin.
where is the "i don't give a damn" option? the guy is a human being not a demi-god.
Why is this our business? Well, Tiger Woods wanted to be known first as an exceptional golfer, then found he could make even more money selling himself as an upstanding guy, known for good sportsmanship. And now comes the truth. Tiger may follow the rules of golf but we have learned he's been cheating.
Of course, there are some private issues to be resolved between him and his wife - and that part of the story should remain private. However, if Tiger or anyone else cheats on the one person he loves more than anyone else there is an unanswered question about who or when he might cheat again. A character issue has been raised and people don't pay for slackers; ask the pilots who flew beyond their destination.
So if Tiger is paid big bucks as a spokesman for an insurance company, is this a company that is okay with cheaters? What about my agent? The claims adjustor? It's not a good thing to have a cheater working for you because customers will wonder who else in the organization cheats and what form does the cheating take.
Our current economic meltdown is the result of people who cared more about money than people; they cheated. Tiger isn't looking very good right now - and he can't hide in a crowd like the investment and bank boys or the morgage mess-makers. It does sound like he is at least a bit embarassed but he doesn't deserve sympathy. Tiger shot himself in the foot by playing around and people know he's not the guy most people thought he was just a week ago.
If you really believe in your own rationale, then the only way this is any of the general public's business is if you are considering paying for goods or services he endorses. Sure, I lost some respect for him as a person, but my admiration for him never was for his wholesome living. It was for his best-in-the-world talent at a game, and that hasn't changed.
Professing that his super-star status and the money he got for endorsements entitles the world to air his dirty laundry is poppycock (btw thank you for giving me an excuse to use the word "poppycock"). If I may be a bit existential for a moment, public scrutiny is the ying and yang of fame. It is both what gave him the good fortunes he's enjoyed up to now as well as the reason he is now living his shame publicly. This unsightly parade through the media is certainly a consequence of his fame, but to think you're justified, entitled, and even dignified in dragging him through the dirt is the kind of nonsense we see every day from people who are all too happy to hold up moral mirrors to other people's faces while never looking in the mirror themselves to realize the harm they're doing for the sake of feeling superior.
And I have to say, the comparison to the banking industry is a poor one. Tiger didn't cheat on his wife and kids for money. His indiscretions didn't cost anyone their pensions. And you have no way to say whether he would have cheated on them if he weren't rich (not that I'm arguing that money and fame didn't corrupt him, but you and I have no way of knowing that). So don't take your hate and disappointment with the world out on him just because he's the latest big public figure to let you down.
Now, don't get me wrong. Tiger was very much in the wrong in what he did. It can hurt to sensationalize it. It is important that those who look up to him understand what he did is wrong, and it is not immoral to speak up and say so. But don't think for a second that tearing people down is a virtuous thing. Let your kids know he was wrong (just like he admitted). Let them understand his golfing talent is still admirable even if his family life is not. Let them know you don't throw people away the first time you hear they made a gross mistake (and let them know you won't do that to them when they make their next mistake).
Yep, the women that let it out about him were conniving and smart, and he deserved to be told on! But they are trash, nonetheless~! Just smarter 'trash' then him. They KEPT track (physical records) and he didn't cover his 'tracks' very well. Serves him right. I'm ashamed FOR his lack of morals and intelligence. Hope his wife has the appropriate blood testing done.
I so agee! So he's the best athlele in the world.....that doesn't mean the world owes him anything! Men that have too much power and money always seem to BLOW IT! I really don't mean to be so bold, but Mr. Tiger should LOSE all of his endorsements, the house, the "PRIVACY", and anything that gives him ny status other than his athleticism! Sorry Tiger, "we" used to see you as a role model, now look what you did! I would have Big Betha'ed your ass if you were my husband!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FFFFFFFFFFOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!
I like the quote by Mimi from The Drew Carey Show, which was ..................."Bite me Doughboy" or for a chick "Bite me Doughgirl"
No one mentions the good things he does for charities just dirt. We all need to look at ourselves. All that's going on WOW. Get a life. these news people are hurting my head. We have serious problems n we need serious people to solve them. Love u Tiger consentrate on your family not this crap. Dirt makes money( What's that tell ya............
What could he possibly have been thinking? Wake up, Man! Own your mistakes and take it like a man. You disgust me.
#2 - Wed Dec 2, 2009 11:26 AM ESTI think he's a total pantywaste. Who does this scumbag think he is???? His parents made him out to be some kind of saint. He's in the public eye, what did he think was going to happen?
It's just that he was "thinking" with his other head. That will get you into trouble EVERY time!
You would think after while that these celebrities would realize that getting a little "strange" just simply is not worth it when the inevetible day comes when it blows up in your face.
It just can't be worth it !!
#3 - Wed Dec 2, 2009 11:31 AM ESTNow the healing can begin.
#4 - Wed Dec 2, 2009 11:31 AM ESTWith a little less $$$ .... to wife, to mistresses..... to ..... Hey, how can I get my share?
Is it possible to sue a rich man for refusing to have an affair???? Hmmmm....
As a golfer, his inimitable greatness cannot be denied. By apparently (and blatantly) cheating with regularity on his wife, he also cheated on his small children and jeopardized the wellbeing & security of his innocent family. Think about it. He has no "role model" admirability anymore--certainly not for the kind of role-model endorsement money he commands.
#5 - Wed Dec 2, 2009 11:37 AM ESTI just don't understand how he thought he wouldn't get caught? Women talk, women brag. The woman from Las Vegas was on a reality show about her tool boyfriend for God's sake! Obviously she wants the attention! I just don't understand how he didn't know that we would all find out, let alone his poor wife. He was my hero -- stupid of me to even have one. I thought he had an incredible mind. Obviously his mind is smaller than his ...
Great golfer, engaging personality--scum bag as a husband. It appears he has been running around for 3 years out of the 5 he has been married. What an ass!
He could have just stayed single and noone would care how many women he got involved with--but having two children while running around at same time--what could he have been thinking?
#6 - Wed Dec 2, 2009 11:37 AM EST...and how many MORE trashy women before it's all said and done.
The women are trash because they KNOW he is married! And do it anyway. Not to absolve him, but they aren't pure innocents in this. Don't believe for a moment they don't initiate some of the contact.
What has always amazed me is that these women that are being called "trash" "whores" and "scumbags"......
So married men cheat with single women....THEN...these same single women get married...and then complain about their husbands cheating on them with "single" women....
So Ladies..it's OK to have an affair with a married man when your single.....but it's hell to pay if he marries you then cheats with a "single" woman?
Quite a paradox wouldn't you say?
Why is this NEWS? It should only be between him and his family. NOT HEADLINE NEWS.
#7 - Wed Dec 2, 2009 11:38 AM ESTThe bummer is that he did damage to public property and it had to be legally documented. You can't just say I don't want to talk to authorities when you damage someone's property. We all know that the Feds are going to investigate. I think he damaged the neighbors stuff too so they have to conduct a investigation for insurance purposes..
Personally, I think the accident was the best thing that could have happened to Tiger Woods. His latest statement reveals that the crash and the required involvement of the police were major wake-up calls for him. So was the media coverage (sorry as it is). He has been forced to confront some immature and unacceptable behavior that had been hidden from public view -- and perhaps from his own psyche -- by his immense talent, wealth and popularity. How can this not be a good thing in the end?
Welcome to the real world, Mr. Woods. I imagine that you are finding out that you are not above the laws of God or man; that accidents are anything but; that there are no secrets; and karma can bite hard.
We all have our faults and private demons, but most of us can commit our transgressions, do penance for them, receive absolution and make amends to those we injure without fanfare. Tiger doesn’t have that luxury - unless we choose to ignore the lurid headlines and give him the time and space he needs to get right with God, himself and his family.
I think that once he has gone through that painful growth process, a more open, humble and grateful Tiger Woods will emerge to tell his story of sin and redemption (but without the shameful details). Let's hope so, anyway.
Wonderful point Ziti. (And may I add one that holds up even if you do or don't subscribe to the same faith in God.) As painful and embarassing as this is for him and his family, it is an opportunity for him to make it a turning point.
Nice cup-half-full perspective. Would that more people had such a productive response to the hardships in their lives.
This is a personal matter between Tiger Woods and his wife.
However the public has to stop putting athletes on pedestals.
I wonder how these tabloid journalists would feel if the tables were turned and their private lives were exposed to the general public?
Anyone want to bet that a large number of these individuals have done things they are not proud of ?
#9 - Wed Dec 2, 2009 11:45 AM ESTThey are all a bunch of hypocrites, as are a lot of the people posting hateful, judgemental comments. The reality is that the divorce rate is just over 50%...These folks are not getting divorced 'cuz somebody left the toilet seat up. Many times the root cause for divorce is infidelity.
Don't get me wrong, what Tiger did was wrong...but none of my or anyone else's business.
The fact that this has been and remains in the news is sad commentary on the world of journalism.
I never put athletes on a pedestal. Some of them think their are larger than life anyway so that's an immediate turn off.
The minute you want to do something and do it well, you are enroute to being famous, and you must take what comes with that status. This includes being put on a pedestal by some and scrutinized by others. It includes paparazzi and gossip columns. There are ways to avoid this as many celebrities have shown us.
Being a celebrity give you moral responsibilities in the eyes of the public whether you like it or not. Many people can live up to these responsibilities, but many cannot and those are the ones we hear about. Tiger PUT HIMSELF in this position and deserves WAY MORE than the backlash that will come out of this.
Where was the "This is none of our business and he made a human mistake 'cause he's a human being" option in the voting? I certainly don't condone infidelity, but come on - whether it's a sports star or an elected official, their personal lives are their personal business. Only if someone in authority abuses that trust by using public funds or if someone's doing something illegal should it become anyone else's concern.
#10 - Wed Dec 2, 2009 11:45 AM ESTThank you! No one wants a cheating husband....but how does that pertain to golf? I think the public gets a thrill out of viewing the misery and mistakes made by those that are successful.
I would love to see the tables turned and the lives of those exploiters 'outed'. Not because I am personally interested, but because of the karma they would experience.
Ditto: My opinion of Tiger has not changed. He's still the best Golfer ever to play the game.
That's all I've ever expected of him and from him.
Those who expect more are foolish and delusional.
When married men have said even 'out of the way' things to me, I tell them not to say anything they would not say if their wives were standing here and listening in...told several I would tell on them if they blinked the wrong way. The women were spiders, and he got caught in the trap so how immoral/stupid for him to be. Glad his wife knows...I wish someone had told ME about MY long ago ex!
He's worth a BILLION dollars (and all the toys to show for it), has a super model for a wife, two children, and plays GOLF for his 'job'...what the heck does it take to keep this man happy??
I have responed pretty much the same way when married men aproached me, not interested. Unfortunately there are more women like the ones with Tiger and they reap what they sew. This may be the thing his marriage needed to put it back on track. But who knows, it's none of my business. The only one he owes anything to is his wife.
I admire him for the courage to come clean about this, but I am also disappointed with his lack of “smarts.” How could he not to realize that there would be someone that would like to capitalize on a weak moment and a media outlet that would love to make money at his and his family’s expense.
What I am really hot about is the Media Talking Heads and Paparazzi that believe that something like this is newsworthy and that nothing is off limits. This man and his family live under a microscope. No matter where they go or what they do there is someone snapping pictures and writing opinions for some tabloid or magazine that can only be described as a potential roll of shiny toilet paper. He is human, he makes mistakes, what makes him any different other than he is rich and famous? At least he didn’t lie about it like Bill Clinton (but, then again, Clinton is a Politician …He’s supposed to lie).
I am 55 years old. Anyone that has live as long as I have has surely done something that they wouldn’t want their mother or wife to know about; much less the whole world. I believe that the Media Bastards are why we have what we have in Congress. What person that is worth a damn would run for office and willingly place themselves under that level of scrutiny?
I sincerely hope that, one day these people get to experienc having their lives splattered across the same tabloids so they can see how it feels. it probably won't matter because they are some more of the "I don't care" type of jerks that we elect to congress!
#11 - Wed Dec 2, 2009 11:50 AM ESTWhat "courage". He got caught in a web of lies he couldn't wriggle out of. He had (has) people on his payroll to run interference so he could cheat on his wife. That's hardly the definition of "courage".
Nobody's perfect and whoever thinks they are, are just kidding themselves. He's still the best golfer in the world and whatever his personal life shortcomings are, I don't care. It's none of mine, or anyone else's business. I hope he wins 4 majors this year! Go get'em Tiger !!!!
#12 - Wed Dec 2, 2009 11:51 AM ESTI agree with you Phil. It's really none of our business. People cheat everyday. Some have affairs for many years. Tiger is certainly no exception to human error. If the public could look into the lives of average people, they would find stories like this and more. None of us have the right to pass judgement on this man.
i have a right to pass any judgement i want . THIs is woods self induced karma. talk about the women being trash??? TIGER WOODS is PURE trash.GROSS just GROSS. i hope his ex gets herself checked for StD.
Oh GOOD GRIEF!! We are sending 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan and THIS is what is on your mind??? Get a grip.
#13 - Wed Dec 2, 2009 11:56 AM ESTThank you Yira!!! The media and the general population are f'n idiots! Who f'n cares!! It blows my mind that people are surprised and that people think they have a right to know every little detail of this man's life.
Yes, thank you Yira. If it was anyone other than a politician or rich sports figure, we wouldn't be having this conversation. The media is probably camped outside his house...very sad and sick. Let his wife and family judge him, not us. MOVE ON....
right on Phil. Let's start a campaign to reveal the lives of tabloid writers.
#14 - Wed Dec 2, 2009 11:57 AM ESTanybody heard of "blackmail"--"...gotcha, now you will pay...and you thought you were so smart..."
#16 - Wed Dec 2, 2009 11:59 AM ESTWouldn't it be great if the Media exposed your dirty secrets? Oh, that's right, who would care, you are NOBODY.
Blakmail one woman and no evidence three women and plenty of text, audio and photos...just stupid. They are going to get rich because he lacked the courage to be faithful to his wife and children. He deserves every bad thing that comes of this
As a golfer, his greatness can't be denied. But by blatantly cheating on his wife with regularity, he also cheated on his young children and jeopardized the safety, wellbeing, and security of his innocent family. That's a sobering fact. Here's another fact: he gets paid to be both competitor and public role model. He's clearly unworthy of the latter designation, especially given the "role model" endorsement $$$ he commands & the image deliberately cultivated as his "brand". Apologies? Trivial and cheap, like most everything else in our declining culture.
#17 - Wed Dec 2, 2009 11:59 AM ESTI have lost respect for him. Cheating by anyone is a very bad flaw in a persons character. I maybe a little bias because my ex had an affair. The damage done to the family is absolutley devasting. Anyone who does this for over two years is a pretty sad person.
He chose to be in the limelight for his endorsements. If he is going to put himself out there and promote himself and products, well then his personal life is kinda of open also. I bet he has made more off of endorsements than golfing. But, it is too bad that his family will have to suffer also from this.
I do hope that his family can someday heal from his selfishness.
#18 - Wed Dec 2, 2009 12:00 PM ESTNohandouts,
I am a widdower. I never had an affair throughout my marrage, but I'm sure that I did things that, somewhere along the line hurt my spouse. While I don't and never would condone his infidelity, I don't think anyone is perfect (at least not since the guy that they nailed on the cross).
My issues are:
1. What business is it of ours? It is between he and his family.
2. His endorsements are mainly because of his skill. Just like Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, and any number of atheletes. Unlike other atheletes, I haven't seen him in jail, using drugs, sponsoring dog fights, shooting people, etc.
3. Do you think that they will ever heal now? It would be bad enough to have to come clean with your family. How can this ever heal with a bunch of *%$# reporters, and tabloid writers putting it in their faces forever just to sell another copy of "Hollywood Crap is us!"
Care to explain that Michael? I'm sure it was a dig but it makes no sense.
He's good at hitting a little ball with a stick. Why was he on a pedestal to begin with? Because the general public are idiots with skewed priorities. As for the rest of it, who gives a @!$%#.
#19 - Wed Dec 2, 2009 12:02 PM ESTWhat do I think of Tiger?
I think he is the most talented player ever to swing a golf club. I am amazed at how many different ways he can play a shot from the same lie. He is a golfer to me, that's it.
I could not care less what happens in his personal life.
#20 - Wed Dec 2, 2009 12:03 PM ESTgreat so its cool with you if he hits on your wife or daughter....great golfer yep....scumbag indiviidual yep.....
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Wow, he is human, now leave him alone